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Is god Evil?

Posted in atheists on December 31st, 2011 by Phil Ferguson – 1 Comment

Found on reddit – written by Osigma.

God’s Wrath:

Kills 70k Israelies for a botched census: 1 Chronicles 21, 2 Samuel 24:15

A prophecy against Babylon: Isaiah 13:9-22

God orders an Israeli to die for breaking the sabbath gathering wood: Numbers 15:32-36

God kills everything on earth with a flood: Genesis 6:11-17, Genesis 7:11-24

God hardens Pharaoh’s heart, then punishes Egypt to show his power: Exodus 7:1, 7:14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7

A plague of hail kills everything in the fields of Egypt: Exodus 9:22-25

God kills all the first-born in Egypt: Exodus 12:29

Right after God commands not to kill, he commands a massacre: Exodus 32:27-29

God promising military victory for obedience: Leviticus 26:7-8

God smites the people with a great plague: Numbers 11:33

God makes the earth swallow people for being rebellious: Numbers 16:27-33

God kills 250 with fire: Numbers 16:35

God kills 14,700 with a plague: Numbers 16:49

God kills Israelies with fiery serpents that bite: Numbers 21:6

God asks Moses to hang decapitated heads in the sun: Numbers 25:4

God kills 24,000 with a plague: Numbers 25:9

God gives emerods (tumors) to men on their “secret parts”: 1 Samuel 5:6-9

God kills more people because they looked at the ark of the Lord: 1 Samuel 6:19

God kills David’s child for his sin: 2 Samuel 12:1-19

God kills 102 men to prove Elijah is a man of God: 2 Kings 1:10-12

God kills 42 kids for mocking a bald guy: 2 Kings 2:23-24

God smites Azariah with leprosy for not removing the “high places”: 2 Kings 15:3-5

God kills 185,000: 2 Kings 19:35

God kills 2 for lying: Acts 5:5-10

God sends lions to kill Babylonians, to make them fear him: 2 Kings 17:25

God takes credit for many scurges: Amos 4:4-13

God bestows leprosy: Numbers 12:9-10

A plague of festering boils: Exodus 9:9-11

A swarm of hornets: Exodus 23:28

A plague of locusts: Exodus 10:12-14

A plague of frogs: Exodus 8:2-6

A plague of lice: Exodus 8:16-17

A plague of flies: Exodus 8:21-24

Blindness: Acts 13:11

Drunkeness: Jeremiah 13:13

Darkness: Exodus 10:22

Threats:

Reward for obedience: Leviticus 26:1-13

Punishment for non-obedience: Leviticus 26:14-46, Deuteronomy 28:15-68

Threat against Babylonians: Isaiah 14:21-22

God’s sword will go against all flesh, righteous and wicked: Ezekiel 21:3-4

2 baskets of figs analogy: Jeremiah 24

God will take out a wall: Ezekiel 13:10-15

Crimes Against Women: Judah sleeps with his daughter-in-law unknowingly, then has her killed: Genesis 38:16-24

A Levite and His Concubine: Judges 19:22-29

Marrying a Captive Woman: Deuteronomy 21:10-14

Marriage Violations: Deuteronomy 22:13-30

A Woman Rescues Her Husband: Deuteronomy 25:11-12

Purification After Childbirth: Leviticus 12:1-8

Unclean During Period: Leviticus 15:19-30, 18;19

God Sets A Woman’s Value to 3/5ths of a Man: Leviticus 27:3-7

Kidnapping women: Judges 21:15-24

A price for rape: Deuteronomy 22:28-29

Man is the master of woman: 1 Corinthians 11:3

A woman is to remain silent and not teach men: 1 timothy 2:11-15

Human Sacrifice Condoned In:

Leviticus 27:29

Judges 11:29-39

Numbers 31:31-40

Leviticus 21:9

Incest:

Genesis 4, 9:1, 19:30-38, 20:11-12

2 Samuel 13:1-15

Slavery and Abuse of Slaves:

Exodus 21:7, 20-21

Numbers 31:9, 31:17-18, 31:31-35

Leviticus 25:44-45, 19:20

Exodus 21:2-7

Ephesians 6:5

1 Timothy 6:1-2

Luke 12:47-48

1 Peter 2:18

2 Samuel 12:31

Spousal Abuse and Child Abuse:

Genesis 22

Numbers 5:5-31, 31:17-18

Deuteronomy 21:18-21, 22:13-21, 23:2, 28-29

Leviticus 20:9

1 Peter 3:1-5

Proverbs 13:10, 20:30, 22:15, 23:13-14

Psalm 137:9

Isaiah 13:16

Hosea 13:16

Abortion:

Amos 1:13

2 Kings 15:16

Hosea 9:11-16, 13:16

Numbers 5:5-31

Deceipt, Pillage, Murder, Genocide:

Genesis 34:13-29

Genesis 6:11-17 & 7:11-24

Exodus 2:12

Exodus 17:13 & 32:27

Exodus 32:27-29

Numbers 31:7-12

Numbers 21:3, 35

Deuteronomy 20:13-14

Deuteronomy 3:1-7

Deuteronomy 2:33-34, 3:6, 7:2, 20:16

Joshua 8:22-25, 10:10-40, 11:8-23

Joshua 6:20-21

Judges 1:4-8, 1:17, 3:29, 3:31, 7:19-25, 8:15-21, 9:5, 9:45, 11:29-39

Judges 14:19, 15:15, 16:27-30, 18:27, 19:22-29, 20:43-48, 21:10-12

1 Samuel 4:10, 7:7-11, 11:11, 14:31, 14:48, 15:3, 15:7-8, 15:33, 18:27, 30:17

2 Samuel 4:7-8, 4:12, 5:25, 8:5, 8:13, 10:18, 11:14-27, 13:28-29, 18:6-7, 18:15, 20:10-12,

1 Kings 2:24-25, 2:29-34, 2:46, 9:27, 10:7, 13:15-24, 20:29-30

2 Kings 9:24, 9:27, 9:30-37, 10:7, 10:14, 10:17, 10:19-27, 11:1, 14:5-7

1 Chronicles 20:3

2 Chronicles 13:17, 21:4

Ezekiel 9:4-6, 20:26

Cannibalism:

Leviticus 26:29

Deuteronomy 28:53-57

2 Kings 6:24-33

Isaiah 49:26

Jeremiah 19:9

Ezekiel 5:8-12

Lamentations 4:10

Micah 3:2-3

Prejudice Against Homosexuality:

Deuteronomy 22:5

Leviticus 18:22, 20:13

1 Corinthians 6:9

1 Timothy 1:10

Animal Cruelty:

Joshua 11:6

2 Samuel 8:4

Zechariah 12:4

Above All Authority

Posted in religion on December 31st, 2011 by E.M. Pamu – Comments Off

Most agnostics and atheists, as well as even some theists, around the world have several issues with the many religions plaguing our planet but one of the top gripes is how religion, especially the “Big Three” monotheistic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, seem to operate with absolute impunity to any and all law enforcement worldwide. In theocratic nations, the religion is not only above the law, it IS the law. Now, it’s already been established (ad nauseum) how there is no evidence for religious gods outside of religious text, and that the only place a (sane) believer will hear, see and feel their god(s) is in their heart. But, if for no other reason than that they are ancient and ancient peoples based their lives off of these glorified rumours, the preferred religious text of all non-secular nations is taken as the very highest authority and the clergy (even outside of theocracies) operate with an untouchable status as a god’s preferred, “chosen” mouthpieces.

We can see the problem plainly within theocratic nations, which are nearly all Catholic or Muslim and almost always see more violent crime than secular nations. A large part of the problem lays in the fact that clergy are seen as the end all, be all in authority. Many hold final (and often only) say in churches/temples/mosques, towns, cities, states and even entire nations. Their word, inspired by their supernatural “relationship” with God and/or their intense understanding of “his” word often go unchecked and clergy are allowed to wreak havoc in countless lives, in and out of theocracies.

Why is it that being a “man of God” automatically places an individual in the position to deceive, mislead, and delude others for money whilst being seen as blameless for any wrongdoing and abuse that they commit in their position? Why are preachers and deacons allowed to condemn homosexuality while having children out-of-wedlock? Why are priests allowed to condemn pre-marital sex whilst their abuses of children are swept under the rug? Why does the Pope get to lecture us on the perils of materialism whilst sitting in his palace, in the Vatican, a sovereign state of which he is the sole ruler, adorned with jewels? Why does this man, whom is suppose to be celibate, get to be the voice of reason on contraception and STD prevention? Why do rabbis get to insist that Jewish boys are unclean without circumcision, bullying parents into chopping off a piece of their child’s genitalia? Why do imams get a constantly decide “what is best” for Muslim women while they turn a blind eye to and often participate in the injustices done to women in the name of Allah? Why do televangelists get to prey on the desperate by promising prayers for cash that they spend on luxury homes, cars, suits and mistresses? Why do so many religious organizations spend more money buying politicians than on charitable aid? Why do clergy fight so desperately to further their reach into the government of democracies in order to have complete control over our lives? The most important question of all is this: What is the true purpose of the clergy? Even if many deluded theists deem these men and women more special than the average person (even going so far as clergy worship), they are still human. Why do I or anyone else require the translations of a faulty human being to better understand the “inerrant” word of a supposedly perfect God?

Similar to the religions they pimp to congregations, the clergy prey on the fear, familiarity, and blind faith of their congregations in order to perpetuate their religion and, by proxy, themselves. These robed con-artists can grab a Torah, Bible, or Qu’ran and simultaneously throw a veil over the eyes of so many people who are ready, willing and able to be brainwashed and exploited for the financial gain of that religion and the clergy who make their living reading and “interpreting” glorified fairy tales to adults. Better yet, why do these followers, so quick to judge other “sinners” at the encouragement of their religious leaders so vehemently defend and often turn a blind eye to the wrong-doing of that same religious leader? At what point do we treat all people equally, including religious leaders, and judge people by their actions rather than their beliefs? At what point do we stop destroying our civilizations in order to bolster religious egos and placate “god’s messenger”? When do we start seeing the clergy as people and stop placing them above all authority?

Hitchens’ Razor

Posted in atheists on December 31st, 2011 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off

Austria’s catholic church Has A Problem

Posted in Catholic Church on December 30th, 2011 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off

via TIME.

is post is in partnership with Worldcrunch, a new global-news site that translates stories of note in foreign languages into English. The article below was originally published in Süddeutsche Zeitung.

VIENNA — There is open rebellion among the clergy of Austria’s Catholic Church. One highly placed man of the cloth has even warned about the risk of a coming schism as significant numbers of priests are refusing obedience to the Pope and bishops for the first time in memory.

Wow!  A split for the catholic church?

The 300-plus supporters of the so-called Priests’ Initiative have had enough of what they call the church’s “delaying” tactics, and they are advocating pushing ahead with policies that openly defy current practices. These include letting nonordained people lead religious services and deliver sermons; making communion available to divorced people who have remarried; allowing women to become priests and to take on important positions in the hierarchy; and letting priests carry out pastoral functions even if, in defiance of church rules, they have a wife and family.

Gasp!  A Family?  The horror!

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, Vienna’s Archbishop and head of the Austrian Bishops’ Conference, has threatened the rebels with excommunication. Incidentally, those involved in the initiative are not only low-profile members of the clergy. Indeed, it is being led by Helmut Schüller — who was for many years vicar general of the archdiocese of Vienna and director of Caritas — and the cathedral pastor in the Carinthian diocese of Gurk.

Excommunication is for people that can think for themselves.  One of the worst crimes ever.  gOd does not want you to think.  If you do, he will vanish in a puff of smoke!

The issues that supporters of the initiative want addressed may be revolutionary, but they are by no means new: they constitute basic questions that have been around for a long time but have never been addressed by church officials.

The initiative’s supporters are demanding that parishes openly expose all things forbidden by the church hierarchy, thus putting a stop to hypocrisy and allowing authenticity of belief and community life to emerge. The appeal for “more honesty” made to the world’s youth by Pope Benedict XVI in Madrid last week left a sour taste in many mouths in Austria, where some say that honesty is a quality the church hierarchy has more of a tendency to punish than reward.

Open Pressure and Disobedience

Particularly affected are some 700 members of an association called Priester ohne Amt (Priests Without a Job) who wish in vain to practice their ministry because they have a wife and children and stand by them. Priests who break ties with loved ones, on the other hand, are allowed to continue working.

According to the initiative’s founder Schüller, only openly disobedient priests and pressure from both priests and laity can force the hierarchy to budge. Although the problems have been out there for decades, he says, the church keeps putting off doing anything about them. Schönborn stated that the critics would have to “give some thought to their path in the church” or face unavoidable consequences. On the other hand, Anton Zulehner, a priest who is one of the most respected pastoral theologians in Austria, believes that this time the church is not going to get away with diversionary tactics.

Twenty years ago, Austria, nominally at least, was 85% Catholic. Today, in the city of Vienna, Catholics account for less than half the population while rural parishes are melting away. Various scandals have rocked the Catholic Church in Austria, among them child-abuse charges against former Vienna Archbishop Hans-Hermann Groër and the nomination of a series of reactionary priests to the rank of bishop.

Read the original story in German.

Why Do Women Go To Church?

Posted in religion on December 30th, 2011 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off

This guy says it but many more think it.  Ladies if you want equal rights then do not give money to people that want to take away your rights.

Are You Part Of The Problem?

Posted in atheists on December 30th, 2011 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off