Archive for May, 2012

In God We Teach – The Matthew LaClair Story

Posted in atheists, Church and State on May 31st, 2012 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off

This is a fantastic one hour movie about Matthew LaClair’s story and legal case about the seperation of church and state.

God Kills Priest By Dropping A Church On Him.

Posted in Uncategorized on May 31st, 2012 by Phil Ferguson – 1 Comment

Ok, let me start with a statement that I am very sorry that this man died.  I wish he was still alive and safe.  What follows is an attempt to make a point about religion and claims of miracles.

What amazes me is how often a tornado, hurricane or earthquake hits an area and destroys buildings and kills people and there is one wall of a church or some cross that is left standing and people point to it and call it a miracle.  Now this time the surrounding building are standing and it is the church that god destroyed.  I kinda doubt we will see this on the news.

A priest was among at least 16 people killed today after the second earthquake to strike northern Italy within nine days caused his church to collapse…

Father Ivo Martini died after he and a firefighter went inside his church in Rovereto di Novi, near Modena, to recover a Virgin Mary statue following this morning’s 5.8 magnitude tremor at 9am.

He go out the first time but went back in to save the virgin Mary.

He perished in a subsequent masonry collapse during one of the four other aftershocks measuring above 4.0 …

Father Martini is believed to have been crushed under a beam. The firefighter escaped.

See god was only after the priest.

His church, Santa Caterina, was one of several religious  buildings that were badly damaged after being weakened by the May 20 earthquake…

Another priest in Carpi is believed to have been rescued from rubble after his church collapsed.

Looks like one got away.

Church after first earthquake.  Note the big crack in the wall.

Church after 2nd earthquake.

How To Choose A Religion – The Flow Chart

Posted in atheists on May 30th, 2012 by Phil Ferguson – 2 Comments

Is there anyway to become rich and not be insane?  Would that be an atheist philanthropist?

Trouble For The pope….. Boo Hoo

Posted in Uncategorized on May 30th, 2012 by Phil Ferguson – Comments Off

Via cnn.

Bad luck comes in threes, even for the pope.

If  only he had a friend with supernatural powers to tell him what was going to happen.

The past week has seen his butler arrested, accused of leaking secret papers from the papal apartment; the head of his bank sacked for incompetence; and a demonstration on his front doorstep by protesters demanding that he reveal what he knows about Italy’s most famous missing-person case.

The  butler did it.   The whole place is falling apart.

It’s bad PR for the Vatican, but it may be more than that, experts say. It could affect who becomes the next pope.

The arrest of the pope’s trusted butler, Paolo Gabriele, came just a day before the board of the Vatican Bank fired its director, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi.

Two days after that, hundreds of people chanted “Truth, truth!” in St. Peter’s Square, holding pictures of Emanuela Orlandi, the daughter of a Vatican employee who disappeared at the age of 15 and has not been seen in the past 29 years.

That can not be good news.   They should get the police involved.

No less a figure than the Vatican’s chief exorcist said he suspected the girl had been abducted for sexual reasons, adding: “The investigation should be carried out inside the Vatican and not outside.”

Oh… good idea… that man that talks to demons says  the church should do the investigation.   they are so good at investigation criminal activity involving  children.

Two Buddhist Monks Immolate Themselves–Free Tibet!

Posted in atheists, religion on May 30th, 2012 by Jim Newman – Comments Off

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Two monks set themselves on fire but were stopped within 2 minutes; one died and the other is in the hospital. China has little to say other than to continue its repression of Tibet. ABC News reports.

There have been at least 34 immolations since March of last year to draw attention to China’s restrictions on Buddhism and to call for the return from exile of the Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama. Most have taken place in heavily Tibetan areas of China, but only one had occurred in Tibet itself and none in the capital…

The twin immolations in the heart of the Tibetan capital are certain to embarrass the region’s communist leadership, who have pledged to prioritize social stability and ethnic unity. That mandate is especially pressing this year as China prepares for a once-a-decade leadership transition in the fall and doesn’t want the occasion undermined.

The immolations are also likely to prompt tough, new restrictions on Tibetan social gatherings and religious activities in Lhasa, as they have elsewhere.

Sam Harris and others are often criticized for discussing the evils of Islam and JudeoChristianity–why don’t they pick on other religions? They do. The issue is that religions like Buddhism and Jainism as they get more extreme don’t do violence to others. There just aren’t Jainist suicide bombers. Buddhists don’t wish to fly planes into buildings. Sam feels this so strongly that he sees profiling as an effective security weapon as he does not think there are going to be many other ideologically imbued zealots willing to kill themselves along with others. This isn’t sufficiently true for security but it is true as a guideline at this point at least.

It isn’t that the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism are true, they are not, it’s just that both the ideology and the practitioners aren’t the problem right now. When the Noble Truth, Life is Suffering, means Buddhists vie to change the law so antidepressants are illegal, then I’ll worry.

We have come  a long way from when we didn’t get suicide bombing, and it was our grandfathers that brought back memories of the Kamikaze and Bonzai bombers of World War II. For awhile psychologists and materialists could not digest that people would kill for ideology, even in times of peace. Rogue idiots going postal seemed like unleashed spontaneous anger, and psycho’s. Young educated Muslim men bent on virgins in heaven were too preposterous and in a way they are. It is unlikely that men kill themselves and others for Virgins, though the promise of salvation in martyrdom includes family and friends. But it all adds to to a coordinated effort to protest.

Atheists do in fact also often deny other parapsychology, water dowsing, ESP and metaphysical types of belief but since it’s hard to care if Uncle Joe wastes your time by insisting to dig where his stick points, and you don’t care that Aunt Lou has the Irish gift of insight, and  she knew Aunt Claire was going to call, we don’t ridicule them. There is freedom after all. But if these sorts of mistakes were to become harmful to the extreme then we would pay attention. When Benny Hinn bilks people for tremendous amounts of money through charlatan Faith Healing, then we care enough to act.

Where this line of activism lies on the continuum of bad and false belief is individual. But clearly, we know the difference between barking mad dogs and benign though idiotic practices of those that have the freedom to be different, wrong, not, or unknown.

Frankly, I see self immolation as very sad and it is an effective gain of empathy to me. More so than a mad bomber. But then I don’t live in a culture where passivity is a problem. Perhaps if I were a Jew in Israel where the Hasidim refuse to fight I would be frustrated at ideologies of passivity–perhaps if there were war in the states on our land and the Quakers, Amish, Mennonites, Hutterites, and Hasidim refused to fight to even save their families, saying it’s god’s will, I would feel different. Ask me then.

Jim Newman, bright and well

www.frontiersofreason.com and www.brightpride.com

Saudi Woman Defies Morality Police and Wears Nail Polish

Posted in Uncategorized on May 29th, 2012 by Jim Newman – Comments Off

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There’s nothing like an international fashion story where freedom is so abridged you want to tell every woman to go buy make up and offend the authorities. Makes our little discussions on superficiality, esteem, unwanted attraction,or just having fun trivial. This woman has to fight for the right to polish her nails! Somebody send her an award.

Jim Newman, bright and well