David Sloan Wilson Lambasts New Atheists as Exceptionally Activist Scientists (EAS)
Posted by Jim Newman on May 21st, 2012 – 4 Comments – Posted in atheists, Evolution, Faith hurting, religion, UncategorizedPost by Jim Newman
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David Sloan Wilson through Huff Post is promoting what he calls a “modern version” or the “new kid on the block” (which is it?) of evolution research, Evolutionary Religious Studies (ERS). Why the acronym? Trademark?
There are several puzzling aspects to his article.
He claims:
“atheism is a disbelief in gods”. And “…new atheists are an exceptionally active group…”.
Atheism is not a disbelief in gods. Atheism is the knowledge, certainty, and trust there are no gods; there is insufficient evidence to support the hypothesis that there are gods. By using the term disbelief Sloan poorly defines atheism. Atheism is not just another belief. To quote Cristina Rad, I am as sure there are no gods as I am sure there aren’t invisible elves living up my ass; I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, there are no elves there. Atheism is the knowledge, certainty, and trust that, due to lack of sufficient evidence, that there are no gods. Unless you wish to support epistemological relativity (no truth), or subjective idealism (no material reality), you’re going to have to admit atheists have knowledge and not belief as best as science can provide.
The Four Horsemen (FH, or Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, and Hitchens) are not exceptionally activist scientists; in the same activist way Sloan and EO Wilson promote their book, “The Neighborhood Project: Using Evolution to Improve My City, One Block at a Time,” they too wish to apply scholarship to public affairs. Einstein and Dr Partho Sarothi Ray were/are exceptionally activist scientists (EAS). Carl Sagan was an EAS. Galileo was an EAS, succumbing to house arrest for years to support his heretical thesis, though he loved the church. Good company these folks.
Shawn Otto in Scientific American’s, “Good Science Always Has Political Ramifications” notes
“Why? Because a scientifically testable claim can be shown to be either most probably true or false, whether the claim is made by a king or a president, a Pope, a Congressperson, or a common citizen.”
The term activist scientist is used pejoratively by conservative groups to beat up climate scientists, who insist they must speak publically because their research is not being accepted.
Sloan asserts the need for a “new” field of study called Evolutionary Religious Studies.
“Evolutionary Religious Studies (ERS) is the scholarly study of religion from an evolutionary perspective.”
Sloan mentions Pascal Boyer, Scott Atran, and himself as the new kids on the block. Yet, he dismisses Dan Dennett (DD or D squared) who famously said in his book that religion should be studied like any other phenomenon and the fact that it isn’t is the problem. Dan famously insists that religion should be taught in public schools.
“It is high time that we subject religion as a global phenomenon to the most intensive multidisciplinary research we can muster calling on the best minds of the planet.”
Indeed, all of the so called activist atheist scientists (AAS or is that EAS?) have asked, demanded, begged, and cajoled for more research, not less. What they contest are current conclusions based on dogma and an incredible lack of credible evidence. What they contest is some obvious stupidity to which people hold dear for what might be politics, ideology, economics, tradition, or some other cognitive biases. But it’s a democracy, go for the Templeton prize, but expect ridicule.
Sloan lists three steps for justifying his “new” field. The first is to accept a personal god as legitimate to research–as if it hadn’t been already, to death. But hey, find the money, get a grant, and have at it. Go for a Templeton prize. But hey try to stay honest.
“They are alike in their rejection of the “actively intervening god” hypothesis. I am choosing my words carefully here. The concept of supernatural agents that actively intervene in the laws of nature and affairs of people is a perfectly good scientific hypothesis that occupied center stage for centuries.”
A PGH (perfectly good hypothesis) is not the issue. Any assertion worded properly is a PGH, I guess. The “world is flat hypothesis” (WFH) is a PGH but is long proven false. No one is saying to absolutely stop studying miracles, parapsychology, personal agency, or faith healing. What we are all tired of is having to prove the world is not flat over and over and over again, or that god cured, talked, appeared to them, because religion so imbues our culture they refuse to accept any material evidence. We’re tired of people insisting that we believe their nonsense when we need to solve bigger issues than a fetus is a person, to support antiabortion. Victor Stenger has long shown that miracles are physically impossible. Having a baby is not a miracle, nor the feeling that god is talking to you. Both are parsimoniously explained by biology and neuroscience.
James Randi, Joe Nickell, and Tom Flynn have long investigated these claims and continue to do so—in spite of the extraordinary amount of evidence showing it to be false. Tarsky and Kahneman solidified the field of Behavioral Economics and showed how heuristic biases are prevalent. Leon Festinger, back in 1956, detailed how cognitive dissonance affects critical thinking negatively.
Sloan negates methodological naturalism (material reality). But the choice then is to endorse a kind of subjective idealism (material things do not exist), which though championed by George Berkley and FH Bradley a long time ago doesn’t work. Pyrrhonis and skeptical empiricism (no truth and it’s only experiential) are as dead as the idea of ether being space. Can’t we better spend our money elsewhere? We have populations issues, wars, resource shortages and we’re busy proving if there is a personal god or not and whether it had evolutionary utility or is collateral? Right now, here and now, belief in a personal god is killing us because we can’t agree on an epistemology that produces evidence we can all follow to success.
The reason we need to decide on these issues is because bad science, pseudo-science, and nonscience are causing us to make egregious decisions concerning personal liberty, group governance, and resolutions to real-world problems. If I had a shred of evidence that praying to god would solve a worldly problem I’d be on my knees every damned day all day long. Insisting that prayer works, is valid, prevents people from doing what does work. If it were harmless, left as personal, and made private we wouldn’t care so much. When a president prays to god he or she might as well cut up a chicken and rorschach its guts.
Sloan then asserts:
“As a scholarly discipline, ERS is agnostic about what gets done with the knowledge that is created. The New Atheism is oriented toward action.
All scholarly research and all science tries to be objective in spite of the fact that all people have biases, positions, and ideologies. All science leads to action. Every publication is an action. Every hypothesis is an assertion to action. That is the entire point. To find the truth no matter where it be and then use it to make our lives better. The more activist you are in this the better.
Sloan says in step 3.
“Whenever New Atheists make claims about religion as a human phenomenon, their claims should respect the authority of empirical evidence. Insofar as the new discipline of ERS has added to empirical knowledge of religion, the New Atheists should be paying close attention to ERS.
The New Atheists are the source of your “new” field. They are the ones that said let’s study evolution (LSE). Let’s see why or what makes people believe in a god, think the world is flat, or use god and church to help in impulse control. Hell, there are some still trying to get why there is a current Flat Earth Society (FES). It’s a trite truism noted by damn near everyone the obvious motivational benefit of thinking an all-powerful god is on your side—until you are crushed for your incorrect assumption, your delusional optimism, and your poor lack of planning, because your depression, fear of defeat, caused you to choose a quick but less effective remedy.
Hell, exceptionally activist atheists (EAA) noted the horrors of postmodernists pouring water on EO Wilson’s head and claiming there is no DNA while the idiot SJ Gould pugnaciously accommodated the pernicious dual magisteria theory (PDMT) to gain traction in his accolades and prestige. His punctuated evolution was easy fodder for the religious to assert a nonsensical godly intervention. It makes more sense that aliens embedded bacteria to start life than god did it.
You, and your “new” ERS, stand on the shoulders of your predecessors and then shit.
Dan Dennett has repeatedly recommended that people read Pascal Boyer “Religion Explained”.
“religious concepts and activities hijack our cognitive resources.”
And Boyer has supported DD. DD is on your side and you don’t get it.
Even the “scholar” so loved by apologists, like Jonathan Haidt, Emil Durkheim, noted the benefits conveyed by religion would be better done by secular institutions and had explanations not requiring the supernatural. From wiki
In this definition, Durkheim avoids references to supernatural or God.[68] Durkheim argued that the concept of supernatural is relatively new, tied to the development of science and separation of supernatural—that which cannot be rationally explained—from natural, that which can.[69] Thus, according to Durkheim, for early humans, everything was supernatural.[69] Similarly, he points out that religions which give little importance to the concept of god exist, such as Buddhism, where the Four Noble Truths is much more important than any individual deity.[69] With that, Durkheim argues, we are left with the following three concepts: the sacred (the ideas that cannot be properly explained, inspire awe and are considered worthy of spiritual respect or devotion), the beliefs and practices (which create highly emotional state—collective effervescence—and invest symbols with sacred importance), and the moral community (a group of people sharing a common moral philosophy).[38][69][70][71] Out of those three concepts, Durkheim focused on the sacred, noting that it is at the very core of a religion.[69] He defined sacred things as:
…simply collective ideals that have fixed themselves on material objects… they are only collective forces hypostasized, that is to say, moral forces; they are made up of the ideas and sentiments awakened in us by the spectacle of society, and not of sensations coming from the physical world.
As I have pointed out repeatedly the building of religious concepts requires mental systems and capacities that are there anyway, religious concepts or not. Religious morality uses moral intuitions, religious notions of supernatural agents recruit our intuitions about agency in general, and so on. This is why I said that religious concepts are parasitic upon other mental capacities. Our capacities to play music, paint pictures or even make sense of printed ink-patterns on a page are also parasitic in this sense. This means that we can explain how people play music, paint pictures and learn to read by examining how mental capacities are recruited by these activities. The same goes for religion. Because the concepts require all sorts of specific human capacities (an intuitive psychology, a tendency to attend to some counterintuitive concepts, as well as various social mind adaptations), we can explain religion by describing how these various capacities get recruited, how they contribute to the features of religion that we find in so many different cultures. We do not need to assume that there is a special way of functioning that occurs only when processing religious thoughts.
Sloan effaces himself and says he hasn’t nor is he inclined to review all of the New Atheist literature but looks forward to someone doing it. Perhaps he should do more basic reading then. He spends the next few hundred words claiming that New Atheists aren’t doing legitimate science. This is like claiming Einstein wasn’t a legitimate scientist because he had a hard time accepting Quantum theory as the complete picture (imagine Einstein saying god doesn’t play dice), and that he shouldn’t have pleaded not to use the A bomb because that was too activist.
I had some respect for Sloan and his alliance with EO Wilson and particularly some research into group theory but now I wouldn’t trust him if he told me what time it is. Show me the data. I want to see your watch.
Jim Newman, bright and well








Just for the record, ‘The Neighborhood Project’ is DS Wilson’s book, not co-authored with EO Wilson.
Entertaining post, though, and some good examples of how Dennett et al. reference the same researchers and theories as DSW, although the latter denies it. This is a typical approach for him…
1) Call foul on others for dismissing or ignoring your perspective.
2) Gloss their arguments as ignorant or irrelevant because they do not include yours. (This can help cover for the fact that you haven’t taken the time to read them).
3) Argue that their omissions in (1) and (2) are symptomatic of a broader state of false consciousness or intellectual bias. (i.e. individual selection is a delusion created by capitalism; atheism leads people to ignore the ‘secular utility of religion’)
4) Ignore the inconvenient consequence of (3): when you charge others with intellectual bias, your audience will immediately ask what YOUR motivations might be and how do YOU, personally, have access to factual reality whereas everyone else is delusional?
5) When you don’t have a coherent answer for (4) and others start to question your motives or omit your arguments altogether, call foul. That is, return to (1).
It’s a tiresome game, usually not worth watching and certainly of questionable worth as a criticism of science. It also demands that he take things personally that should be considered professional critiques, while selectively interpreting the professional reasons people give for doubting him as personal biases of one kind or another. (i.e. scholars in the humanities doubt the relevance of Darwinism to their studies not because it often doesn’t make any sense to apply it, but because they’re ‘scared’). For being so rhetorically complicated, it’s incredible how childish it turns out to be… He’s right, and you’re probably wrong (but could be right if you agreed with him). If you don’t agree it’s because you are personally invested in being wrong, and that makes you a meanie.
hazel-rah
Thanks Hazel-rah, how’s the beach house?
You’re absolute right and great comment. EO Wilson and David Sloan Wilson coauthored the article “Evolution, for the Good of the Group.”
There seems to be big prestige in somehow showing that groups work together while individuals strive but in the end it.seems fatuous whether it’s an ant or a celibate uncle–just as fitness is no longer the sine quo non of evolution.
In Mexico a French young man and several of us got together to entice a boatman to take us to Guatamala on the Naranjo at night. It was all quite conciliatory until the terms were agreed upon and we departed in a small motored canoe for 8. After which I was just another American and his wife.
The boatman got in trouble with the authorities when we arrived, illegally, late that night, and the Frenchman was nowhere to be seen but I got the rough look from the boatman though he got off.
Some antts seem to have no kin investment a la EO Wilson but as my gay fag friend said years ago, sometimes it’s just about others and thats’s OK. Kropotkin is still the Prince of Human Mutualism though he’s outdated.
Wow, Jim, that is one incoherent reply you’ve got there. I don’t understand what the French boatman story has to do with anything, or why you describe your friend as a “gay fag”.
Should I regret posting here?
LOL. My apologies. It was late after a very long day. The river story was a poor allusion about cooperation. DSW and his multilevel selection is about how individuals ban together towards a goal and this is how group selection evolved–Im not sure I agree with this as I see people group for shared goals and then sometimes dis each other after the goal is met without further altruism. Sometimes banning together allows people access to trust with greater danger. The Frenchman, I don’t know his name, came to me for opportunity but then disappeared during accountability.
The converse of this is a good example of lifelong altruism where my good friend who called himself a gay fag and never intended to breed or adopt as he said often noted that gene survival is not always as important as we think and creating a successful environment in which humans can thrive may be as important if not more so.
This reminded me of Kropotkin who was an early promoter of mutualism as existing more often than we think. I was reading him when first introduced to RDs Selfish Gene and now years later ?? And my friend whom I haven’t seen for even more years would laugh if we came full circle as he insisted gay culture is most beneficial to humans as a whole and actually aids culture by not being distracted by breeding and by their being incredibly innovative and productive–breeding kills culture because you have to raise the little bastards, so to speak.
The beach house ref was because I thought your signature was cool and as I was cruising it as a ref I saw a Maine Beach House called Hazel Rah. I thought it referred to a lyric as well but …
I was just too obtuse and stupid. I’ll just shut up and go back to my corner and suck my thumb.